Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 17

02/24/2009 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION


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01:02:29 PM Start
01:02:38 PM HB133
01:42:23 PM Federal Stimulus Package Update by the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (dot&pf)
02:46:28 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ HB 133 TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES/HWY DESIGNATIONS TELECONFERENCED
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+ Federal Stimulus Package Update by DOT TELECONFERENCED
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 133-TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES/HWY DESIGNATIONS                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the first order of business would be                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO.  133, "An Act relating to  traffic control devices                                                               
on  highways and  claims related  to those  devices; relating  to                                                               
designation  of highway  systems;  making conforming  amendments;                                                               
and providing for an effective date."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:03:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEITH UNDERKOFFLER, Intern, Representative Peggy Wilson, Alaska                                                                 
State Legislature, read a prepared statement, as follows:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Fundamentally  there  is  no more  important  principle                                                                    
     with   regard   to   traffic   control   devices   than                                                                    
     uniformity.  When  drivers see a red  octagon they know                                                                    
     to stop.   When they see a green light  they know to go                                                                    
     and so  forth.  The  certainty in the driver's  mind of                                                                    
     what  action to  take is  increased because  of his/her                                                                    
     familiarity  with uniform  signs.   No where  is there,                                                                    
     say,  a green  light  that is  intended  to mean  stop.                                                                    
     This is precisely the issue that HB 133 addresses.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Currently,  the Alaska  Traffic Manual  (ATM), produced                                                                    
     by  the  federal  government and  supplemented  by  the                                                                    
     State  of  Alaska  is  not   set  out  in  statute  and                                                                    
     therefore local governments  and private developers are                                                                    
     able  to use  signs unfamiliar  to drivers,  making the                                                                    
     roads  more  dangerous.   This  practice  violates  the                                                                    
     federal Uniform Vehicle Code and  could easily be ended                                                                    
     by  affirming the  ATM  in statute.    Further, HB  133                                                                    
     ensures  that the  appropriate design  is used  for any                                                                    
     given situation.  The ATM  makes very particular use of                                                                    
     the  phrases  may,  should, and  shall,  intending  the                                                                    
     "shall"  statements to  be  mandatory regulations,  the                                                                    
     "should"  statements  to  be recommendations,  and  the                                                                    
     "may"  statements  to   be  permissible  installations.                                                                    
     Again,  the  intent  of  HB  133  in  confirming  these                                                                    
     statements    is   uniformity.       If    regions   or                                                                    
     municipalities  differentiated  in their  understanding                                                                    
     of these statements driver  safety would be compromised                                                                    
     because they  would not always  know what to  expect in                                                                    
     each  situation.   By confirming  a uniform,  mandatory                                                                    
     standard set  out by the federal  and state government,                                                                    
     HB  133  makes  it  clear what  exactly  the  state  or                                                                    
     municipality has  to do  to protect  its citizens.   It                                                                    
     provides clear  requirements and makes  traffic control                                                                    
       device installation uniform across the board.  All                                                                       
      Alaskans will benefit from knowing exactly what each                                                                      
     traffic control device means.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON stated  that she  does not  intend to  move HB  133                                                               
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:07:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  thanked the bill sponsor  and her staff                                                               
for the well drafted statement as  well as the work that is being                                                               
done on traffic control devices.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:07:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK NEIDHOLD,  P.E., Chief,  Design and  Construction Standards,                                                               
Division  of  Design  and  Engineering  Services,  Department  of                                                               
Transportation &  Public Facilities  (DOT&PF), explained  that he                                                               
is responsible for the development  of the department's statewide                                                               
procedures  and  standards for  the  design  and construction  of                                                               
highways and airports.   Additionally, he is  responsible for the                                                               
implementation of those procedures  and standards by the regional                                                               
offices.   Alaska  uses the  national Manual  on Uniform  Traffic                                                               
Control Devices (MUTCD), and an  Alaska supplement to provide the                                                               
direction  and   uniformity  with  respect  to   traffic  control                                                               
devices.   The  MUTCD is  the federal  standard while  the Alaska                                                               
supplement  amends  the  federal  document  to  addresses  unique                                                               
situations  in   Alaska.    The   Alaska  Traffic  Manual   is  a                                                               
compilation of the  two manuals mentioned and is  approved by the                                                               
Federal Highway  Administration (FWHA).  He  related that traffic                                                               
control  devices is  the term  the  DOT&PF uses  to describe  all                                                               
signs, signals,  and markings as  well as other devices  that are                                                               
used  to warn,  guide, regulate  and inform  traffic.   He opined                                                               
that  markings   are  fairly  self-explanatory.     First,  signs                                                               
including  stop signs,  yield signs,  curb  warning signs,  speed                                                               
limit signals, and street signs.   Second, signals include the 3-                                                               
ball  traffic signals  used for  vehicular direction,  pedestrian                                                               
signals, and railroad crossing signals.   Third, markings include                                                               
the  paint lines  so the  stripes on  the side  of the  road, the                                                               
painted crosswalks,  turn only arrow  and the gore  chevrons that                                                               
mark interchanges.  Traffic control  devices are a compilation of                                                               
all  three devices.   The  ATM provides  the direction  regarding                                                               
placement and application of those devices.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:10:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD  stated that  the ATM also  provides where  and when                                                               
not  to use  the  devices  or direction  to  avoid overusing  the                                                               
devices.  He opined that to  preserve the highest level of safety                                                               
to the public,  uniformity is necessary statewide.   He offered a                                                               
scenario  in  which a  person  encounters  many bump  signs,  but                                                               
doesn't experience a  bump.  The person is  conditioned to ignore                                                               
the sign and not  slow down for the signs.   When the person does                                                               
not  slow down  but  encounters a  sign followed  by  a bump,  an                                                               
accident or injury could occur.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:11:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEIDHOLD  related  that  if speed  signs  are  misused,  the                                                               
consequences are  more severe  since driving  around curves  at a                                                               
high rate  of speed  could easily  result in  an accident.   This                                                               
bill  makes the  ATM the  standard  to ensure  public safety  and                                                               
clarifies the  department's role  in classifying  and designating                                                               
highways.    He  explained  the   department  would  be  able  to                                                               
designate   and   classify   roads,   apply   different   funding                                                               
categories,  and different  design standards  for road  including                                                               
sidewalk, curve radius  and other requirements.   He concluded by                                                               
stating the  DOT&PF supports HB  133 since it adopts  the traffic                                                               
manual and makes it the uniform statewide standard.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG inquired as  to whether a definition for                                                               
traffic control devices is provided in statute.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD offered  that the definition is included  in the ATM                                                               
manual.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  said  he  thought  that  it  would  be                                                               
helpful for the public to know  what is intended and not just the                                                               
traffic control person.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:14:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked  if the ATM will apply  to trails as                                                               
well.   He inquired  as to  whether the DOT&PF  will need  to put                                                               
numbers on houses  or mailboxes.  He also asked  if a big problem                                                               
exists in Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD responded that the  ATM does not cover mailboxes and                                                               
house numbering, and is specific  to traffic control devices that                                                               
are used  to warn, inform and  regulate.  In further  response to                                                               
Representative   Johnson,  answered   that   the  ATM   addresses                                                               
pedestrian  signage   and  contains   many  levels   of  guidance                                                               
depending on  the location  and the  use.   He explained  that it                                                               
would include  bicycle paths and  some trails, but not  trails in                                                               
remote Alaska or West Glacier Trail at the Mendenhall Glacier.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  asked if  the  Joseph  C. Williams,  Sr.                                                               
Coastal trail in Ketchikan would need different signage.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD  said he was  not familiar with the  coastal trails.                                                               
He offered to provide information to the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN  clarified that the trail  in question is                                                               
the Joseph C. Williams, Sr. trail.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD, in  response to Chair Wilson, stated  that the only                                                               
signage that  would be changed  by the  bill would be  to replace                                                               
signs  that do  not  meet the  national standard,  such  as if  a                                                               
community erected a pink stop sign.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:18:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD,  in response to Representative  Doogan, agreed that                                                               
it would  be safe  to assume  that signage put  up by  the DOT&PF                                                               
would meet the signage standards in the ATM.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:19:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ  inquired as  to whether  the rule  apply to                                                               
municipalities                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD,  in further response to  Representative Munoz, said                                                               
he did not  know for certain if the requirements  would cause any                                                               
financial  burden.   He recalled  that  some municipalities  have                                                               
supported  adopting the  ATM.   He also  explained that  projects                                                               
designed  by  local  governments   using  federal  "pass  through                                                               
dollars"  are using  current ATM  standards.   Thus,  he said  he                                                               
would not anticipate any impact on those projects.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:20:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  referred to Section 5,  to paragraph 13                                                               
of HB  133, to  the definition of  "traffic control  device" that                                                               
includes devices  such as pedestrian facilities,  bicycle trails,                                                               
and  multi-use pathways.   He  inquired as  to whether  any other                                                               
items should be included in the definition.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD  said that the  definition is based on  the national                                                               
standard   so  he   is  comfortable   that   the  definition   is                                                               
comprehensive.   He acknowledged he had  forgotten the definition                                                               
for traffic control device was included in the bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:21:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON inquired  as to whether HB  133 adopts the                                                               
federal standards for signage.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD  related that  the federal  rule requires  states to                                                               
use the national standard.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:22:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON asked for  clarification as to whether the                                                               
standards are construction standards such  as for curb and gutter                                                               
or solely for signage.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEIDHOLD related his understanding  that lane width, curb and                                                               
gutter  relates  to the  DOT&PF's  role  in classification.    He                                                               
explained that  the classification defines which  design standard                                                               
will be used.  Thus, the  bill clarifies the DOT&PF's role in the                                                               
act of classifying the routes.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON   related  his  understanding   that  the                                                               
Municipality of Anchorage  holds discussions about classification                                                               
of  routes such  as whether  the road  is a  collector or  feeder                                                               
road.   He  further asked  whether the  state is  supplanting the                                                               
MOA's  ability to  classify a  road differently  than the  DOT&PF                                                               
would  classify a  road.   He  offered that  signs  would be  one                                                               
thing,   but   design  and   construction   of   roads  is   more                                                               
comprehensive  and would  cover  trails,  gutters, drainage,  and                                                               
bike paths,                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SEAN   LYNCH,  Assistant   Attorney   General,  Civil   Division,                                                               
Transportation Section,  Department of Law (DOL),  stated that he                                                               
is assigned  to the  transportation section.   He  answered, with                                                               
respect to  Representative Johnson's  question, that  the federal                                                               
standard or  the MUTCD is  a "floor"  and the DOT&PF  is adopting                                                               
the  federal  standard.    He  explained  that  with  the  Alaska                                                               
supplement the  DOT&PF can  be more  protective than  the federal                                                               
standard.  He further explained  that the state classification of                                                               
roads determines  which standard  applies to  state roads.   This                                                               
bill will  not change  the structure  of the  road classification                                                               
but  would repeal  section AS  19.10.040,  and merge  it into  AS                                                               
19.10.020, which is the requirement  by DOT&PF to designate roads                                                               
in the highway system.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:27:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LYNCH,  in response to  Chair Wilson, answered that  the bill                                                               
does  not  change  the  classification   system  that  the  state                                                               
currently uses.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:28:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LYNCH, in  response to  Representative Johnson,  agreed that                                                               
the  standard  applies   to  public  roads.     He  offered  that                                                               
municipalities have  some municipality-owned  roads.   He related                                                               
that  the  federal standard  is  a  minimum or  "floor"  standard                                                               
nationwide.     He  stated   that  the   signage  for   roads  in                                                               
municipalities and  villages is  designed to the  minimum federal                                                               
standard.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOHNSON   inquired   as   to   whether   signage                                                               
requirements would change  when a state road  traverses through a                                                               
municipality.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LYNCH  explained that this  bill does not add  any additional                                                               
burden  or   modify  the  relationship  between   the  state  and                                                               
municipal  roads.    He  detailed   that  when  a  road  segment,                                                               
depending  on ownership  and traffic  count  could be  classified                                                               
differently and could have different standards.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JEFF   OTTESEN,  Director,   Division  of   Program  Development,                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   &  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                               
answered that the key words  are "functional classification".  He                                                               
explained  that  the  DOT&PF, under  federal  law,  performs  the                                                               
functional classification  of all  public highways of  the state,                                                               
regardless  of  ownership.   He  offered  that  periodically  the                                                               
process is updated  since traffic volumes change  and the purpose                                                               
of the road changes.  He  related that at the highest level, such                                                               
as the  Parks Highway or Glenn  Highway in Anchorage is  to carry                                                               
traffic from place  to place and the roads do  not have driveways                                                               
or  sidewalks  except  in controlled  fashions  at  interchanges.                                                               
While, at the other spectrum are  local roads that consist of low                                                               
speeds and  light traffic volumes.   However, in between  the two                                                               
extremes  are minor  and major  collectors, and  minor and  major                                                               
arterials and  interstate or interstate-like roads.   The DOT&PF,                                                               
through a public process, identifies  roads.  He opined that most                                                               
communities  clamor to  have  their roads  elevated  to a  higher                                                               
classification   even  if   signage  requirements   change  since                                                               
eligibility for federal funding is  generally more available.  He                                                               
related that  higher roads  tend to score  better in  the funding                                                               
system.   Thus, while a  burden may exist,  communities generally                                                               
push  for  the  higher  road classification.    He  related  that                                                               
process is  currently underway to  reclassify Alaska's  roads and                                                               
is a revolving process that has happened since statehood.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:33:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. OTTESEN,  in response to Representative  Johnson, opined that                                                               
he did  not think there is  anything in the bill  to worry about,                                                               
that the  classification of  roads is ongoing  and the  DOT&PF is                                                               
asked  to elevate  road classifications  for communities  and not                                                               
lower them.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEIDHOLD, in  response to  Representative Gruenberg,  stated                                                               
that  the  intent  of  the   bill  is  traffic  control  devices,                                                               
specifically signals,  markings, and  signs, but is  not intended                                                               
to  apply to  traffic calming  items  such as  islands, curb  and                                                               
gutters, or green strips.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:36:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  inquired as to whether  the definitions                                                               
should include  those items, and  if not, he suggested  adding an                                                               
amendment  to  the definition  of  "traffic  control devices"  to                                                               
state "or  other similar  devices" since he  said he  thought the                                                               
language was slightly confusing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:37:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LYNCH  asked to  address the  question.   He stated  that the                                                               
intent is  to adopt the  MUTCD and  the Alaska supplement  as the                                                               
state  standard.   He related  his understanding  that the  MUTCD                                                               
only  addresses signs,  signals and  markings as  defined in  the                                                               
federal manual, but  does not cover islands or  greenways.  Thus,                                                               
this bill is limited to adopting the national standard.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:38:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  suggested  reviewing the  language  so                                                               
that is  really clear to  the lay person.   He said that  he does                                                               
not  have  a problem.    However,  he  suggested that  perhaps  a                                                               
reference to  the manual would  make the definition clear  to the                                                               
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DOOGAN referred  to page  2, to  paragraph 4,  of                                                               
HB 133  and  asked for  a  brief  explanation of  overruling  the                                                               
Guerrero  v.  Alaska  Housing Finance  Corp.,  P.3d  966  (Alaska                                                               
2005).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. LYNCH  explained that  the case, which  involved a  child who                                                               
was  hit  while  on  a street,  which  subsequently  resulted  in                                                               
charges against the DOT&PF for  negligent design.  He stated that                                                               
the  court  found  that the  design  engineer  exercised  his/her                                                               
discretion, and  the DOT&PF could  not be held liable  except for                                                               
the issue  of signage.   He stated that  the MUTCD used  the term                                                               
"should" and  the court  inquired as  to why  the DOT&PF  did not                                                               
include a sign.  He related  that this provision attempts to make                                                               
the  distinction between  the "shalls"  in the  MUTCD, which  are                                                               
required, and the "shoulds", which are discretionary decisions.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  to  put  on   the  record  his                                                               
gratitude for  the cooperative process  that Chair Olson  and the                                                               
DOT&PF are using with HB 133.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 133 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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